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POLL: Should Manalapan Schools Have Armed Guards?

Vote in our poll to give your opinion on armed officers in schools.

 

A month after the Newtown school shooting rocked the nation; residents are still weighing in on gun control and school safety.

In many Monmouth County towns, schools are working with their police forces to ensure safety. In response to updates from Patch editors, readers are commenting that schools need more protection and using outlets on Patch to express their concerns and as a way to call others residents to action.

Marlboro made headlines earlier this month, when armed officers became a visible site in all Marlboro schools. In an article from Marlboro-Colts Neck Patch, the Marlboro Board of Education said that the decision to temporarily place officers in every school would cost the district an estimated $100,000 for 90 days. 

At last week's public hearing on school security within the Manalapan-Englishtown Regional School District, Superintendent John J. Marciante, Jr. said that he is against having armed officers in district schools because research shows that a higher increase in violence at schools with armed guards.

"It is not the simple answer that everyone wants it to be," Marciante said. "Strong associations out there with data do not support [armed guards in schools] as the right way to go. . . there is lots of research out there that does not support it as the best solution to this problem. If it was the solution, I'm sure everyone would be doing it. It's not the solution."

Several parents at the meeting told the Board of Education that they felt armed guards were needed within the school buildings.

Marciante said that the ultimate decision of having armed officers in schools falls on the Board of Education, but that is something that he would not recommend to them.

The Freehold Regional High School District (FRHSD) has always had unarmed security guards in schools. In the aftermath of the Newtown, Conn. shooting, FRHSD Superintendent Charles Sampson said at a Board of Education meeting that the use of personnel was evaluated, including the deployment of school security officers and the utilization of teachers on duty periods.

New changes to the security of the buildings include the installation of buzzer systems with cameras and having security guards man the areas by the entrance of the high school and at the delivery areas of the building.

Do you feel there should be more security such as armed guards in schools?

Vote in our poll and tell us your opinion.

  • Do you think Manalapan schools should have armed guards?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • Yes. Armed guards are the only way to protect students from tragedies like the Newtown school shooting.
        16 (51%)
    • No. Armed guards are not necessary, both district's new safety measures are enough.
        10 (32%)
    • I don't think armed guards should be in schools but I want more security in my district.
        5 (16%)
    Total votes: 31
  • Your vote will only count once. This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
Related Topics: FRHSD and Manalapan-Englishtown Schools

Jim Orourke

5:12 pm on Monday, January 21, 2013

we need to proctect our kids in school every and every state should have arm guards in school because they are the future of this country

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cynicinmarlboro

6:57 pm on Monday, January 21, 2013

I have read comments that range from armored transports, bullet-proof glass, and armed guards to barbed wire and other outrageous - and expensive - means. Our children are going to school, for goodness sake, not to a federal penitentiary. The children are not the ones who should be made to feel like they are hardened criminals. Semi-automatic weapons and magazines holding inordinate amounts of ammunition are the culprit and are not a requirement for the average gun owner. A simple pistol or rifle can be used for protection and/or hunting. Leave the heavy duty weaponry to the authorities and the military. It still will not prevent the occasional mentally challenged individual from doing something, but there would be a lot less casualties. Or ask the NRA to stop throwing all their money at the politicians in Washington looking for campaign funds (they are always looking for that) and use it to help fund the armed guard in every school they are pushing for and take the burden away from the taxpayers.

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Richard Chimento

6:28 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

cynicinmarlboro - Most weapons today are semi-automatics. They're all one trigger pull, one bullet. Many hunt with weapons and do sport shooting with these weapons, even the infamous AR-15. The weapons aren't the problem, its the person holding them. Why don't we spend our efforts combating the primary reasons for these shootings, i.e. mental illness and poverty, instead of taking the rights and choices of responsibly gun owners away?

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Richard Chimento

6:31 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

Jim Orourke - What are the odds anything like this will happen in our schools? You're a victim of this nationwide mass hysteria that suddenly now all our children are in danger because one wacko shot up an elementary school. The costs to provide that much security isn't justifiable.

Just a reader

12:54 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

Hey cynic who says it has to be a semi-auto, or a large capacity magazine? Are you that ignorant thinking a person with multiple clips and a hand gun can't fire off enough rounds to kill multiple people before any help arrives? If that's the case I feel bad for you.
The bottom line is the people who have mental issues, or are just plain criminals are going to break the law. How many illegal firearms do you think will be handed over by a criminal? Stricter laws will do nothing to control people with issues, or those who are going to break the law.
If a person is goign to commit a crime they will do it one way or another. Look at Timothy McVeigh. He used a legally obtained vehicle, and purchased common items to build a bomb to blow up the Morrow building. Are we supposed to ban vans, or fertilizer? Just another case of an unstable person doing what they can to disrupt the lives of normal people.

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Just a reader

7:13 pm on Monday, January 21, 2013

Just to prove my point. Look at the weekend shooting of the family in New Mexico. The son killed his 3 siblings, and both parents. He shot them all. Want to guess what type of wepon he used? A .22cal rifle. Can you imaginr that? A mass produced common rifle. Did you think that could happen? They didn't mention the capacity, or model, but he might have had to reload depending on how many rounds were fired.
Just another mental instability that was left untreated.

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Ron White

11:41 pm on Monday, January 21, 2013

The firearms are no more at fault here as a car is when a drunk driver kills someone with a car! Your thought process is flawed. Mental health is the issue, NOT legal gun owners! The studies quoted were admittedly insufficient so not sure why they are even quoted.

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Richard Chimento

6:20 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

That is the truth Ron! Guns are merely tools, and how they're used is entirely dependent on the user. Guns can as much protect the lives of innocents as much as they can kill. It should be the person, the user, we focus on. Determine why people use guns for evil. And most often its one of two reasons, poverty and/or mental illness. Spend the money to fight those two things instead of taking people's rights and choices away.

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Acl

8:32 am on Wednesday, January 23, 2013

That is a great point! A perfect analogy. More people should see it from that angle!

Richard Chimento

6:14 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

All this rush for more school security is a symptom of mass hysteria. Its not needed, there is no nationwide attack on our schools. I have better odds winning the lotto than having something like Newtown happen in my daughter's school. It would be foolish to waste so much money on militarizing our school instead of focusing on education. Common sense security measures are fine, but nothing we do will truly make our little ones 100% safer. As with anything we do in life, crossing a street, or even driving, we take some risks and can never predict what will go wrong.

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Razor

9:23 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

Curing every potentially dangerous mental patient is an unrealistic expectation. Yes, there has to be more awareness of their condition and treatment but there must a second line of defense when it comes to dealing with what happened in CT and how it affects our own daily lives and the safety of our children. I'm sure if you asked one of the parents who had their child shot up what were the odds of a random shooting happening in their child's class and I'm sure they would think the chance of winning the lottery was better.
That mental case broke a window, got in, and freely traveled through doors and hallways. If that window had an alarm on it blaring upon its break things might have turned out differently. I believe the solution is a combination of increased police awareness and presence in the community but installing safety equipment like window and door alarms is better. Windows should have alarms in them and doors should be locked where school officials must swipe security ID cards for access just like hospitals.

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Manalaparent

9:28 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

Armed guards are not the answer. There were armed guards in Columbine and it still happened. We can't live in fear. The money should be spent on putting more trained counselors in the schools. See when a child need help. Get the teachers more training on recognizing the warning signs. If you put an armed guard in each school, what is next? One in each classroom? Then do we add a new class for the kids "target shooting"? We were not considering armed guards before the CT shooting, we shouldn't be considering it now. Remember, there were also mass shootings in a mall and a movie theater. Should those have armed guards too?

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Just a reader

3:48 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

Yes, there were shootings there too. Now state the facts about both of those not just the left view. The mall shooter was stopped by a legally armed person. The movie shooter had to drive past 2 Yes, 2 theaters that allowed customers to carry in order to get to the theater he commited the crime at. He drove further to find his unarmed victims. What do you think would have happened had he entered either of the theaters he passed? He would have been shot dead soon after he started firing.
Just another coward that performed an illegal act.

Manalaparent

4:27 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

And what about the guard at Columbine? I agree that an armed guard "could" help the situation in certain circumstances. But when it comes to our schools, I think there are better ways to keep our children safe, and better ways to spend our money. The problem was not guns, so the solution is not guns. The problem is mental health, but our district doesn't want to put the money or resources toward that. Like I said, I would rather see the money go into more training for our teachers so they can see the warning signs (and not risk getting sued for speaking up either!)

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Just a reader

5:57 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

That's all well and good, but none of the above mentioned people were in school except for the Columbine shootings. Yes, it would be great to stop even one tragedy, but how would it have helped with the others? What about the military doctor who went on a rampage? The Oklahoma City bombings? Virginia Tech?
Not everything or everyone can be evaluated. You would have to train every teacher, education employee, hospital worker, law enforcement oficer, etc... to look for certain warning signs. Would that not lead to people claiming harressment, or profiling? Mostly all terrorists have been middle Eastern desent between 18 and 45, look at the trouble it's caused lumping all of those people into the same category.
You can't prevent everyhting. Bad people will do bad things no matter what, just the same as a drug addict will get high no matter what you do for them.

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Jman

8:38 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

The Police officer at Columbine High was out of position (in police cruiser in parking lot eating lunch) when the shooting began. That said, the officer still managed to engage the shooters and exchange gunfire with them. The officer very likely saved lives in that immediate area of the school. Instead of 13 dead there may have been
many, many more. An armed security guard or cop in a school can't prevent a shooting but would have a good chance to stop it or at least minimize the damage.

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Claudine Scozzari

7:46 am on Wednesday, January 23, 2013

Wow - The Columbine gunman gives a whole new meaning to the phrase, "Out to Lunch."

You make Columbine sound like a well timed event.

Armed targets are a waste of tax payer dollars. It just makes the people feel better. Armed police/guards don't stop the actual event.

mushmouse8

4:30 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

In addition to avoiding a tragedy, at the Middle School and High School levels, you have the added advantage of deterring bullying, fights, drug sales and use, and overall bad behavior.

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Brian Kramer

4:22 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013

The number of folks here thinking the answer is armed guards in our kids schools scares me. For "Just a Reader" if there had been armed folks in the Aurora movie theater shooting the death toll would probably have been higher. You would have nu-trained civilians involved in a firefight with someone wearing body armor and blasting at will. The last answer to this puzzle is more guns.

Just so you all know there have been over 1100 deaths via guns since the Newton school shooting. Last thing I want is a gun anywhere near my daughter's school.

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Richard Chimento

4:28 am on Friday, January 25, 2013

Responsible gun owners don't make random shots, or participate in firefights. This isn't a wild west movie. Out of all the cases of gun owners defending themselves, cite one in which it resulted in a 'fire fight'? Those that have carry permits know when and how to use a weapon responsibly.

Jman

6:25 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013

You really think the Aurora shooting would have been worse if there was an armed civilian present? Clearly you know very little about weapons, tactics and the element of surprise. I'd much rather have someone returning fire against an active shooter than hiding behind a plastic movie theatre seat, praying and waiting to be the next victim.

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Brian Kramer

3:49 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013

Jman I am the first to admit I know absolutely nothing about weapons. Never held a gun before let alone shoot one. What I do have is a rational brain. Try to picture the Aurora scenario in your head. Dark theater, shooter with bullet proof Kevlar and helmet, firing automatic weapons in the dark randomly. People diving on the floor, or running toward exits in back and you think a civilian would be able to take him down? If this hero could see in the dark then he would also have to be able to see through a sea of humanity running for the exits. More likely he would start shooting wildly as well just adding to the chaos and fear of those in the theater.

Jman

4:12 pm on Friday, January 25, 2013

I understand your ignorance about weapons, shooting and tactics. Most people don't knowing about those things, usually getting most of their information from movies and television. Without going through a step by step breakdown of the Aurora incident lets just say this. An armed individual affords himself (and those around him or her) a chance to fight back and not be anothet helpless victim.

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Jman

4:14 pm on Friday, January 25, 2013

Sorry for the typos on my post I was using a smartphone.

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frank

2:18 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Yes, I think there should be a program put in place in manalapan schools to protect our kids..Gun free school zone signs is like posting no speeding on the parkway..wake up sheople !All i here is how to disarm the law abiding citizen..When do we hear a proposal to disarm the criminals?? I would not expect to lose my drivers license if my neighbor is charged for a dui,however It seems acceptable to punish legal gun owners,for crimes carried out by criminals..I have been a gun owner of 20 years,not once has my gun loaded itself walked out the door started my vehicle driven to a school and shot anyone..

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Brian Kramer

3:45 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Frank nobody has proposed taking your gun. You and your gun can sleep easy tonight.

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frank

3:05 pm on Thursday, February 28, 2013

Well thank you for the comforting words Brian..
I read a few post above where you state you know nothing about guns,I would like to give you some insight in regards to guns,if I may...They are an "inanimate" object, it does not sleep...it does not get mad..It cannot load itself,etc...Its people control we need Brian,not gun control...I agree with back -round checks and following the laws in my state to own my guns..After all NJ has already in place back-round checks and registration of all guns..I get a little frustrated when I, and others are being punished with proposed legislation to infringe on our rights for the actions of criminals...I think its important that we all stand together..Today its the second amendment tomorrow it may be the first,where does it end and who decides...The constitution is there to follow and protect...This is the united states of America

Brian Kramer

3:28 pm on Thursday, February 28, 2013

Frank first of all no new laws have been passed. Secondly if they were to pass Federal background checks going forward how would you or any other legal gun owner be punished? The problem is our NJ laws are different then gun laws in Virginia. What's to stop someone who can't pass a background check in Jersey going to a state with no check and bringing back whatever they want?
All I'm looking for is a universal background check and a limit on clip size. The goal is to cut down on the MASS shootings. There will always be bad people who do bad things with or without guns. These are 2 common sense steps that a majority of Americans agree on.

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frank

7:23 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013

Hey Brian,
I agree with back- round checks as per my last post,And it is most definitely a problem with people "Illegally transporting firearms cross state lines"this is criminal activity that should be stopped,but not at my expense..and,I would be effected with the bill diane finestien has proposed if it does pass as would the entire country..She is trying to ban every hand gun with a "detachable magazine" and any rifle with a tubular magazine of 10 rounds or more,this is unacceptable ...It has been debunked on many videos on youtube by even Law enforcement that limiting magazine capacity will do absolutely nothing to help stop violent crime.. if you have time check out this video >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjnsBH9jGxc

also I am very pleased that many LE is pro gun,I mean no precinct wants a Chicago situation on there hands...

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