Campaigning on our tax dollars (NJ State trooper security team) in Washington State raising money for Mitt Romney.
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/08/mr_christie_goes_to_washington.html

No worse than the Long Legged Mac daddy(Obama)he is hitting swing states telling lies not working on the economic issues or jobs.

He is running for office and what he is doing is part of his Job, It's his re-election campaign. That is a big difference then what Christie is doing.

You right....wait you talkin about Obama right?

A 2nd post today from someone about teh country being destroyed. Can you please explain how that is happening, with facts and figures ?

half the country is in food stamps while we are over $ 18 trillion in debt thanks to this clueless foreign exchange student Barry

Your spelling teacher must be proud of you.

Just when I thought everybody was taking themselves too seriously and true humor was dead, YAMMBY comes out with that one. Oh man, that is just too funny. A full eight words without a spelling or grammatical error. Did your masters finally buy you a spell checker for your typewriter? And in what universe do people have spelling teachers? Maybe in the New Jersey public school system, huh?
BTW, YAMMBY, maybe you don't know it but many of our educators think spelling accuracy is outmoded and it's more important that the student just get his or her point across and feel good doing it. Self-esteem is kind of like gold and ammunition, you can't ever have too much of it.

@ymbdfa: "50 cent" went to a public school in NJ (teachers earning 4% raises every year regardless of the results).... don't blame him... blame the public school system.....

S. 2884, the Bring Jobs Home Act. why did the GOP vote against it when it contained no pork and no earmarks? GOP = GALLONS OF POOP!

Here's a the link to prove Volpe knows what he is talking about. Whether republican or democrat NJ Government is the most corrupt in the country.
http://newjersey.watchdog.org/2012/05/14/conflicts-controversy-plague-dcj-investigation-of-lt-gov-guadagno-245k-pension-scam-investigative-report-by-mark-lagerkvist/

That's brilliant Diane! Considering Hispanics represent more than 14 percent of the population in the U.S. and have an estimated annual purchasing power of $1 trillion, your point makes overwhelming economic sense.

My Abott math classes aint to goode 14% less than 86% so speak english ok by me same as eyeball said

Diane, I want my country back too! If I went to a foreign country, I wouldn't expect them to cater to my language. What the heck is going on???

Again, how does seeing a sign in English and Spanish affect your daily life? How many non-English speaking people do you deal with on a daily basis?

Funky,I know people who didn't get the jobs they applied for because they weren't fluent in Spanish.These were jobs in banks,retail,a fast food outlets.I can understand companies that deal with businesses in other countries or foreign tourist requiring their emplhyees to be bilingual,but these were local businesses.

Marylou, that is very wrong, but posting signs in Spanish is not.

America as it should be - then we'd all be speaking Cherokee or Navajo.

I agree with MaryLou. I find it offensive and shocking that business owners in America should make hiring decisions aimed at maximizing their profits. They should make hiring decisions that, while unprofitable, make Tea Partiers feel better about the country, themselves and their place in society. Because that's what America is all about!

For a businesses to try and make money is a further sign that the country is headed to ruin. I mean, what had capitalism come to?!?!?

You find it offensive and shocking then it is your problem. It makes sense given the size of the Spanish speaking business community and what business would be stupid enought to turn down a paying customer because they speak only Spanish, not me. Take a trip through Montreal of Quebec and read the signs in French and English and many are just in French. You don't mind a Presidential Candidate who keeps his money all over the world in any language, why would you mind a customer that spends his money here?

Dan, I was joking.

My appologies, I just read so many hatefull and stupid comments I just read the fist line of yours and now that I have read the rest is see your point. Me Bad.

Why should they learn English? It might cost them their welfare check.

I repeat myself:

According to the Washington Times 43% of immigrants in this country 20 or more years collect welfare. That sure blows the argument that illegals contribute and get nothing in return. The apologists for illegals have to come up with another argument.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/8/slow-path-to-progress-for-us-immigrants/

So are Americans exploiting the illegals or are the illegals exploiting Americans?

I can't even believe we have to have this conversation! This is America, and our language is English. While it takes time and money to learn a language, some people have been here for generations and still haven't taken the time to learn. Why? Because we cater to them and put signs in Spanish and English. Funky: Have you ever considered that every single other immigrant group took the time to learn English? That no public signs appear (for the most part) in any other language than Spanish? In what twisted world does someone come to this country and EXPECT to be able to speak their own language, and, beyond that, be spoken to in their native language outside of one's family and ethnic community?! No other group needed "assimilation" assistance. In fact, when a lot of ethnic groups came here, they were discriminated against, barred from living in certain areas, and had to learn English from their children. Alas, they learned! Somehow, working in sweatshops and living in slums of NY, they learned! And our daily lives ARE impacted by people not speaking not only my language, but the language of our country... You know, when the McDonald's cashier can't even take my order, when I deal with clients who can't even tell me one sentence in English, when people come into my or someone else's place of work and expect them to speak Spanish. Plus, I feel like I'm living in a foreign country in my own hometown. So yes, it does impact life. And learning English is what is expected. Do it.

I sick of pressing 2 to hear English!!!

But why does it cause animosity? Please, help me understand.

We already tried that Junkie. Are you aware that we currently have third generation, TIHIRD GENERATION1 illegals recieving bilingual services in the state of Florida according to a recent study? These people have no intention of assimilating into the American way of life. A hand up should not mean a hand-out for generations. Bienvenido Estados Unidos, ahora HABLA INGLES!

dint natives learn to speak English. what you got against lazy Americans? Least we here legally gettin our free sheet from the govment.

The problem with your POV Rebecca is many of us are descended from immigrants who did not receive or expect any concessions to be made regarding their limitations of the English language. I recently heard an Hispanic leader say that the U.S. should be bilingual because by the 3rd of 4th generations, Hispanics are losing their native language abilities. So what??? How is that different from any other immigrants? I’m 3rd generation German, and no nothing about the German language. I have a good friend who is first generation Russian. Her kids know Russian, but it is very doubtful that her grandkids will. Why should we make special concessions only to Spanish-speaking immigrants???

Wonderfully said Rebecca

Actually Becky, the vast majority of Americans ARE native Americans having been born in the United States.

Food for thought: I am a descendant of a slave. I am not an immigrant. Surely, you understand why I make that distinction. I also think that you make sweepingly broad generalizations regarding Americans.

I would just keep complaining about ignorant writers

indigenous (ɪnˈdɪdʒɪnəs)
adj (when postpositive, foll by to )
1. originating or occurring naturally

North America has no indigenous people.

No, Americans won't work for slave wages that are against the law.
Would you ?
You do realize we have labor laws in this country don't you ?
But thanks for pointing out that you support such practices.

Maybe Patch should pay you less then minimum wage.
At least then they'd be getting their monies worth

Jay, you are right. I am a Native American for I was born in the USA, so were my parents my grandparents and most of my greats. Do not consider me Danish – Irish - English – American. I am a Native American. We are not a nation of immigrants, most of us were born here - and not naturalized.
Outside of Africa, there is no part of the world settled by people whose ancestors had not immigrated there some time in the distant past

I totally agree with you Rebecca! Well said! See this article.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/02/opinion/garcia-illegal-immigrants/index.html

"The film "A Day Without a Mexican" was made in 2004. No Mexicans -- or Colombians or Argentines or Guatemalans or Panamanians, for that matter -- have mysteriously disappeared from our country. In the long run, a day without Mexicans would deal a devastating blow not just to California, but to the U.S. economy. It is time to cease the mantras that enforce the idea that illegal immigrants are nothing more than leeches to our society, and embrace the realities of what these people actually contribute to our economy: a financial fountain we would be foolish to shut off."

Bravo and well spoken Ms. Savastio!

I am sorry to disagree Becky, you are wrong about everyone being an immigrant. Neither you nor I emigrated to the US. Our ancestors did, but we didn't.

Hmm maybe some of those jobs would be given to Americans once employers actually had to pay their workers a fair wage on the books. Just a thought. And English is our unofficial, official language. While we don't have one on the books, we are not like China in that we have multiple languages being spoken and accepted. English is the standard, go-to language that we speak and it has been that way since our country's inception. (Also, Native Americans were not the start of our country, Puritan settlers actually began the United States of America, if you want to get technical, and their native tongue is English. Native Americans had little or nothing to do with the formation of our country, other than having to be pushed out of their land by eager Americans.) And yes, everyone else is an immigrant, including myself. Yet my family learned English, just like the Germans, Russians, Chinese, Polish, Indian, etc. AND, finally, how is it fair that illegals are allowed to remain here while plenty of their own people are waiting on lines to get green cards and citizenship and obtain citizenship legally? How is THAT fair? Additionally, I fully support buying American-made products and will pay more when they are available because I abhor the direction in which our country is going. So, no, not all Americans are lazy and want big screen TV's and labor for cheap.

@Joe. The welfare money being given to immigrants is coming from welfare that is deserved and should be given to American citizens. American citizens, especially our children, are suffering welfare cuts so some immigrant mooch off the Americans - so much for the concept of hard working, industrious illegals.

as long as they tell you what kind of dog or cat you'll be eating I really don't care what language the menu is

I aint got no problem with that but if I got to push 3 for Chinese on the phone that I got a problem with. Do Spanish restaurants have menus in both to?

Most Chinese people I meet are able to speak English. Your point regarding menus missed the target.

I take issue with anything bilingual that comes out of tax payers pockets.

Private businesses can do whatever they want.

Nothing like countering racism with racism.

Rebecca, thanks for your advice, you raise some very interesting points. But I feel the money immigrants are getting from welfare is coming out of funds allocated to help our own citizens who desperately and actually deserve welfare or other social services. It is not our responsibility to care for citizens of other countries. Funding to help the American poor is drying up. Last month NJ Medicaid stopped paying for deductibles unpaid by Medicare. I know because it now cost one of my relatives $20 a month more for his prescriptions.

You are right that statistics can be manipulated by private citizens including both you and me, as well as by political, "official or governmental organizations" and that includes the Southern Poverty Law Center, for which I used to donate money. (I dropped them because the aggressive appeals for donations they sent me were very left wing propaganda.)

As far as CIS, even if their percentages are off a percent or three, the bottom line is giving any immigrant getting welfare is morally wrong because the money is being taken from our own citizens who need welfare or other social services.

Actually a lot of the welfare dollars are going to support polygamy communities - man has 1 legal wife and 19 collecting a check. If you really cared about the fiscal impact that is the demographic.

@hrhppg, the bottom line is giving any immigrant getting welfare is morally wrong because the money is being taken from our own citizens who need that welfare and/ or other social services.

No, I'm not the MAN.But do you think along the line of what Jesus Christ would say. You know, the one most phony christians pray to once a week to make them selves feel good. We all live on one planet. NOBODY is better then anyone else. Share and respect the planet and the people. To the Jemoke ,12345678, who stated the quality of the immigrants is going down, is just my point. Since when did this viewer of FOX PHONY NEWS ever been qualified to judge anyone. These so called lower quality humans are hard working, want to school their children and have a better way of life AND want to do it legally and they don't get as much financial support as you think. You know just like the immigrant families most of you came from on ELLIS ISLAND.They were mostly ignorant and poor to. God Bless America and power to the people, not the Right Wing Garbage Machine(Tea Party).

George- you're right, no one is better than anyone else. That's why legal immigration is the only thing that should ever be acceptable. How is it fair that some people can break the rules but not have any repercussions while others wait years for their citizenship or green cards? Why are those people any better, why do they deserve that special privilege of being able to do whatever they want? It is my philosophy that when you come to this country, you work hard and do the best you can for your family, try to be an American, and treat your neighbor with respect and compassion. Clearly that is not something you can comprehend, thinking that opposing illegal immigration means I think they are subhumans. In fact, I think they are only taking away opportunities from others that I think those others deserve. Before you stereotype, take a second to listen. The difference between Ellis Island immigrants and illegals is that those first immigrants had to do so legally, had to speak the language, and had to make due with barely any support from the government. Somehow, they all made it. Your rants on the right wing are also horribly ignorant, but I'm going to choose to ignore them because it is clearly a sign of inferior intelligence.

Exactly! Everyone wants cheap labor but when that fact is pointed out, people become very irate.

As we include more people in to the working status and that means legally working immigrants, who by the way do pay Taxes, pay into the socil security machine. To remind you that Socil Security is well funded, something they will not tell you at FOX PHONEY NEWS.We need to allow, legally, the opportunity to increase jobs for all that want to work and bring manufacturing back to this country. By the way ROCCO, Democrats were the only ones fighting for middle class wages since the 1930's with the creation of unions. They and only they were looking out for the ordinary person. It has always been Republicans and a few phoney Democrats who were and still are PUPPETS of the Corporate Machine.You can actually watch them on the Official Corporate television channel spinning the truth, FOX PHONEY NEWS.

Yes but "English" as in what they speak in London - not our low brow version.

hrhppg - Spoken English varies depending on the region. Local dialects influence how it is spoken and how words are used.

Written English in majority of the world more closely follows British English.
But oddly, Canadian written English is more like American.

Here's the thing Eyeballs, I don't think less of anyone! I've had the wonderful privilege of attending schools that, among other things, taught me to be bilingual by age 17, provided me with credentials to succeed in our capitalist society, and, most importantly, taught me to honor and respect all cultures. I love people, especially those who would rather forsake their roots in their home country to come to America for a better life. That's courage. I salute those people. I live paycheck to paycheck, and yet I still feel privileged. And I will never complain that a portion of my taxes are helping these immigrants in their quest for better lives. Or that my liberty is somehow compromised because the government or corporations offer accessible services to people who struggle with English. And to issue a blanket statement that current immigrants, or Hispanic people, are too lazy to learn English is completely ignorant and, yes, racist.

Well said Funky!

Would that it were true That Patch actually cared enought to make people post real names or at least through Facebook.

Laura you don't really think the lawn services, farms and contractors are withholding income tax, FICA, SUI, SDI from their laborers, do you? I'm tired of hearing that legal residents won't do these jobs. Fact is they can't afford to do these jobs because the illegals can do them for half the price and still walk away with the same take home pay.
Six bucks for a big mac is nothing compared to what I'm paying now to have all the extra ESL teachers and assistants to translate during class in my school district.
The solution to the problem is to make all the illegal immigrants legal ASAP. Half will go home on their own because they won't be able to afford to stay and the half that stay will at least be paying into all the systems they're taking out of.

Oh, and I forgot to point out the ridiculousness in you condoning identity theft and fraud because it means more funds in the SS system.

@Laura Ok, I or someone in the else in my house already mows my lawn. Restaurant kitchens are dirty so I rarely eat out. I cannot stand the taste of McDonald’s food - it is all garbage. So please send all the illegals packing, it will not affect me. You do not need to carry on with your dramatics – I do not use illegals. I had a contractor use illegals at my home and I promptly fired the service.

But honey, I do suggest you learn a bit. Your illegals will later hire an attorney so they can collect that SS money – they are already doing it and collecting. Of course, many of your illegals do not pay because they get paid in cash.

As far as you not caring about American citizens facing cuts to pay for welfare for illegals, I will be happy the day you find out that you or your family cannot get Medicare because the system went broke paying for your illegals. You are amazing babe; you cry for illegals but turn your back on your fellow citizens. You are a major hypocrite but you knew that. They all say it behind your back.

THANK YOU^

Call me cheap, but I'd rather pay $2000 to have my lawn redone and for landscaping design that $10000 and use American citizens.

Perhaps they are just doing what the very first English immigrants did when they arrived in the colonies?

When my ancestor William Brewster landed on these shores he did not learn the language of his Wompanoag neighbors.

According to http://cogsci.indiana.edu/farg/rehling/nativeAm/ling.html:
A common misconception is that there was one Native American language. In reality, there were perhaps a thousand languages spoken in the Americas before the arrival of Europeans - about 250 in the present territory of the United States alone. In addition, these languages showed tremendous variety between one another. A trio of individuals from three areas a hundred miles apart might very likely have been completely unable to communicate by speech. There was, however, a sign language used in some areas to allow communication between those of different tribes. This is described in detail in William Clark's book, "The Indian Sign Language".

Just as there were many languages in Europe.

This is an interesting site to find people that tweet in their indigenous languages.

Here is the link: http://indigenoustweets.com/

Did you know that English is Germanic language and there were once law outlawing the Celtic languages that predate on the islands that are now the United Kingdom?

It is all about who has power, and who those with power want to subjegate. Imperialism 101. The fact people are reclaiming their indigonous languages is because they are reclaiming their heritage.

Hwyl fawr.

You are so correct, it's hard to find people like you in a sea of narrow minded hatred. god bless

I think it would be correct to state that the "so-called" Native Americans immigrated here over the Bering Strait most likely:-) So, exactly what is the point about immigrants and natives? In the end, if history has proven anything, it is that the conquerors write history.

You're still wrong. How, exactly, did my ancestors encourage immigration? You don't get it. That's too bad, but that's OK. Ciao for now.

@Rebecca, you sure bought lock, stock and barrel the left wing pity the poor immigrant story. You have not overlooked any of the tired but meaningless clichés.

Everyday Americans do not tell employers to hire. Employers hire workers as cheaply as they can. Given the choice of paying an American worker and those payroll taxes or higher an illegal for cash, of course the employer will hire the cheaper illegal. But that does not make it right. What happens to that American who loses his or her job so the employer can hire a cheaper illegal? Oh, you do not care.
Just for the record I just fired a contractor for sending illegals to my home. Unlike you, I care that too many Americans cannot find jobs and are losing their homes and families. Oh, you do not care. You are beholden to tired clichés to care that record numbers of Americans do not have jobs. You will the day it is your turn to lose your job to an illegal.

http://www.pbs.org/kpbs/theborder/history/timeline/20.html

Rebecca Savastio totally looks like Betty Crocker, and that's cool.

Yet you do not care that American citizens are losing their jobs because employers are hiring illegals. You certainly do not view those jobless Americans with humanity, dignity and compassion. Not with your cast them to the streets attitude.

And please cut your phony "I view all people with humanity, dignity and compassion." It did not bring me to tears like you intended. You are not Mother Theresa despite all your claims that you are.

"Undocumented workers."

That's code for illegal aliens.

Bull, the "undocumented workers" who are not paid in cash will hire lawyers to collect SS and Medicare when it is time to collect. They are doing it now and winning- (and so are the illegals). And of course, do not forget the billions in welfare and Medicade they are collecting, 43% of them are collecting welfare after being here 20 years.

Chilly, it is time for you to wake up and smell the stench coming from your illegals.

I bet the Asians and Indians are legal.

And the folks those arrive here from India legally. So what is your point? The discussion is about Kimmy reaching out to the ILLEGALS.

Yup, say goodbye to what America was. Say hello to "third world America". you are really smart chilly. I am excited to be a minority! Now I can get all the handouts that you've been getting all this time. You can now work your butt off to feed me and my family.

"Love America or Leave It," such a tired and ignorant statement.

"Love America, realize it has faults just like everywhere else, and work to make it better and more inclusive for all" has a more American ring to it.

A nation of people breaking their backs to pay for the Social Security and Medicare of others...and the recipients are the ones who never stop whining and complaining. Never ceases to amaze me.

A nation of people who demand the lowest possible prices for consumer goods and low food prices...yet never stop whining about the means by which these things are provided - illegal labor. Never ceases to amaze me.

You want illegal immigrants on that wall! You NEED illegal immigrants on that wall!

Nice post. Allow me to retort:

Durk-A-Dur.

LOL Funny.... and soooooo true!

Oh, dear. I'm going to just let this go.

@Rebecca, of course you do not differentiate them because you are a wannabe Mother Theresa. I bet you shop local to help the local farmer because it is "the right thing to do." But you do not care if your neighbors do not have job because those poor illegal immigrants deserve your pity and besides helping them not your neighbors “is the right thing to do.” **sob** Record numbers of Americans are unemployed but that is not your problem to solve – or care about.

I cannot wait until you are unemployed because your boss replaced you with an illegal immigrant. More likely you are a government employee so your job is safe as long as there are enough AMERICAN TAXPAYERS. Sorry but you are a phony but I do admit you are soooo political correct, even Bill Maher would admire you.

Since, Ric, as you've mentioned previously, illegal immigrants refuse to learn English, I doubt that Rebecca has to worry about losing her job to an undocumented alien.

But, if you do know American citizens looking for work, here's a link for an organization with a mission to employ them as farm workers: http://www.takeourjobs.org/.

Ric, out of curiosity...where do you shop?

Rebecca, do you differentiate between those who immigrated here legally and those who immigrate illegally? You claim that everyone is an equal human being, but does that belief nullify breaking the law?

Rebecca,

Ric would have us believe there is something wrong with Mother Teresa. I forgot, we citizens of the USA should all be selfish and think only about ourselves.

@Rebecca, sure, whatever you say - if you want to believe you are the very best person you know. But the reality is you spend too much time thinking globally and doing all that political correctness. Why help desperate Americans about to lose everything when you can pretend to be mother Theresa and save the non-American world? And let’s face it; you are better than all your neighbors. The illegals appreciate you.

Roxanne - "its always an inferior mind that sinks to insults "
Brilliant!
Considering your comment at 1:33 was nothing but insults are you admitting you have an inferior mind ?

Thanks Roxanne, I appreciate it. It's no fun to be called a fake, a phony, a wannabe, uncaring, and have wishes against me that I lose my job. I appreciate your support :)

@roxanne, LOL! I could not say it better than mtrwres. Is this a do as I say and not as I do moment for you? Or do you really think you can do no wrong?

@Rebecca, sorry but please try saying "I don't differentiate them by where they were born" a half dozen times without sounding phony. It cannot be done.

Easiest thing you can do to make more money and have job security...learn Spanish or Chinese or Japanese, or some other language aside from English. That's a marketable skill in a global economy, that's a valuable asset to an employer. Language skills separate a person from the pack going after the same job.

And you don't have to go to Harvard or Yale, the local CC's offer these courses and do a good job. And they're affordable.

But Americans are too lazy, they'd have to miss their stories if they undertook such a lucrative step to improve their lives.

So instead they complain, whine, blame, rant. Because it's easy.

Well said Porter. Unfortunately, some English speakers on this page are too lazy to learn another language.

Hey look, we're all descendants of immigrants...and compared to them, we're all as soft as cookie dough.

When we talk about our grandparents and great-grandparents that came over here there is one central theme - they rolled with the punches and constantly adapted to a changing world in order to build a better life for themselves. That's why they got on the boat to begin with. There was nothing they wouldn't do to succeed, no hardship they wouldn't suffer in order to attain their goals.

Too bad that many on this board that cite such examples miss that point, choosing instead to call it a day in the face of a changing world.

If it bothers you do not follow up. No one is holding a gun to your head, are they?

You're right, Pointy, this is sucking all of the oxygen out of the room.

Good evening Monk. Your desciption of what these comments are doing is better than mine. Wow, we have found common ground on something. Maybe there is hope for Washington. I think the reply to my comment from rice kinds of sums up the ignorance of many of these posters. I stopped reading when i saw people referencing their Pilgrim ancestors and lost plum pancake recipes. I thought that crap was for Facebook. But don't worry, I have a plan. And to all you haters on here, as Monk knows I'm retired with plenty of time. I intend to use that time to nightly "flag as inappropriate" the vile and hate. You can get reinstated every morning, but at least it will be an inconvenience. Maybe then Patch will tighten up their standards or stop this state-wide nonsense. Sleep tight haters. :)

Hi, Pointy Hat. I'm glad we agreed on something, too. Have a good weekend.

The reality is that employers don't want to pay, so the illegals take the jobs for the low pay they offer as no questions are asked and they don't need proper ID.

Thats not the point. The point is that its illegal to knowingly hire any illegal. You will get caught, you will be fined and you may go to jail

Jersey Girl, I bet you are real proud of yourself for using every tired unproven cliché from the sainted defenders of illegals society. Too bad you posted misinformation and lies and no facts.

By the way, I come from my parents who were Americans. And my parents come from parents that were Americans. I am native to this country having been born here. I am not an immigrant. Your we are all immigrants argument is silly. Outside of Africa, everyone is an immigrant by your definition. Immigrant refers to the person and not the DNA. Get over it; check your Funk & Wagnall’s.

@george - Grow up and stop being an idiot for once your life. You cannot even debate like a man. When a fool like you starts to claim others are KKK or Neo Nazi, it shows that you have lost the debate. You only do that because you cannot support your view with the truth. So good night, good bye and start taking lessons on becoming a man.

http://youtu.be/OLkokNuIojw